God's Diamonds In The Ruff Podcast
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God's Diamonds In The Ruff Podcast
#181 S5 EP 55: Embracing Core Values and Intentional Living with Andrea Johnson
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Andrea Johnson, a transformational leadership coach who brings a wealth of wisdom and optimism to our listeners. Andrea opens up about her deeply personal journey, from her diverse roles as a wife and a pastor's wife to her experience as a missionary kid. She shares how her mother's battle with breast cancer became a profound catalyst for her own intentional living. Andrea, a Maxwell leadership trainer and DISC consultant, offers invaluable insights into understanding oneself from the inside out and aligning actions with one's faith, inspiring us to find purpose even amidst life's adversities.
Andrea brings her expertise to the forefront, guiding us through the essence of practical leadership, starting with leading oneself. She emphasizes the importance of identifying and respecting one's core values such as autonomy, authenticity, and belonging. Drawing inspiration from her personal experiences and teachings of John Maxwell and the Franklin Covey method, Andrea underscores how these principles create a foundation for effective leadership and foster an environment of acceptance and growth. Her message encourages us to embrace our unique values and live intentionally, offering practical strategies for personal and professional development.
As we wrap up this heartfelt discussion, we celebrate the joy and gratitude that Andrea has infused into our dialogue. Reflecting on the idea of being a "diamond in the rough," Andrea encourages us to recognize our unique potential and embrace our community. This episode leaves listeners with a warm sense of connection, hope, and the reaffirmation of their own unique journey. With love and blessings, we look forward to future conversations filled with inspiration and growth, reminding everyone of their inherent value and the boundless possibilities ahead.
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Hello and hello. Welcome back, god's diamonds in the rough. I am so glad to be before you one more time. Amen, I hope all is well where you are. Hallelujah, amen. Truth be told, I was getting ready to say learning the living truth, but it's all good. Amen, y'all got me.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, michael is not here today. Amen, I do have a, a guest that's going to be with here co-hosting with me. Amen, uh, her name is andrea johnson. Amen and um, god is just doing some magnificent things in her as well. Amen. And so we are excited about our conversation today because we're going to be talking about optimism. Yeah, even in the world that we live in today, we're still going to be talking about optimism and how we can be intentional about it.
Speaker 1:Amen, so y'all are going to meet her here in just a few moments. Y'all know what we got to do. We always do it. Amen, we must pray. So, father, we thank you so much for your grace and your mercy. Amen, we must pray. So, father, we thank you so much for your grace and your mercy.
Speaker 1:Thank you, god, for allowing us this time to get in, to get into a conversation that's going to bring enlightenment, um, to our diamonds, that they are diamonds in your sight. Pray, god, that you would use us to your glory, father, that you would just have your way here. I pray that we can speak words of life, that we can be all that you need us to be in this time. I pray for every heart that is here that they would come seeking your face, coming to find what it is they need to see and understand. I pray, god, the blessings of the Lord will be upon each and every one and I pray, lord, that you would just have your way. We thank you, we praise you, we give you glory and honor. We pray all of this in Jesus Christ's name. We do pray, amen, amen and amen, hallelujah. So here we go. Miss Andrea is here and I want to ask you to say hello to everybody, miss Lady.
Speaker 2:Hello, what a privilege to be here. Amen, I love the spirit.
Speaker 1:So glad to have you so, so glad. So can you tell us a little bit about yourself before we get into the topic of conversation?
Speaker 2:Sure, catherine, I call myself a transformational leadership coach, and I think that it's real easy to think well then you just go talking about strategies and how you build your business or how you grow, and I've learned, over the course of the many years that God has had me on this earth and the things that he has taught me, that we must grow from the inside out and we have to approach everything we do with this idea that we're going to give our best to the Lord, and so everything that I do I do unto Christ and everything that I do I want to do with as my best. So part of that is understanding who I am, and so I work with people figuring out how to understand who they are, how God has wired them, what their core values are. And then I'm also a Maxwell leadership trainer and coach and a disc consultant, so I then help them understand how he's wired them to communicate and how we recognize communication patterns in others and how we can use that in order to build bridges and to make communication much more clear. And boy does it eliminate a lot of strife and conflict. And then how to kind of the third piece of that is how to just kind of live it all out with these six tenets of intentional optimism that I just.
Speaker 2:I was joking with somebody. I said I figured out that that's the way that I can encourage myself to live in a way that glorifies God. You know, I mean, it's the Pharisees had the extra rules. I just have these things, reminders of no, andrea, it's all these things. They're pretty simple and you just go that direction. So I'm a wife, a mother, a pastor's wife, a Sunday school teacher, an adoptive mother, a missionary kid there's a lot of labels you could put on me, but mostly I'm just. I'm just me.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it, just me, amen. That's great. So, andrea, what is optimism in your heart, in your mind? What is that? What is that?
Speaker 2:Well, the reason I use the word intentional in front of it is because it's real easy to think that, and sometimes we as Christians fall into this kind of I would call it a trap of just pretending everything is fine and putting a sunny spin on everything, without realizing that we walk in a I mean, we walk in a really hard world and we walk in a broken world. We walk in a world where there's nothing that is laid out for us, that is supposed to necessarily be easy, and especially when we start turning on the TV or the news or social media, we realize you know what I mean. I don't mind being informed. I grew up overseas. I like to be informed about what's going on, but I feel like there's a way that they could tell these things that isn't so gloomy all the time but at the same time.
Speaker 2:So for me, being intentionally optimistic means intentionally looking at the hardness of life, the struggles that we walk through, the roads that we walk, the waves that knock us over, and looking at all of those things and saying yet my hope is in the Lord, yet I can be present, yet I can have hope in my future, because he has promised that to me and it may not be that he's promised me riches, but he has promised to be there with me. And so when I say optimistic, I put that qualifier in front of it. It's intentional, and that part of my work is being willing to see all the hard things and saying and yet there's something, there's always something there. Some people might call that looking for a silver lining. I just say I understand, wonder better than most children, because I'm willing to see what you have to die to in the soil for a pretty crocus or a tulip to come up in the spring.
Speaker 1:Amen, definitely. I'm a firm believer that you know intention is everything, because intention speaks choice. You choose to live a life that you know that says it's unto the Lord. I choose to look for the good, even in the bad. You know what I mean. To me, that's intentional living. Me, that's intentional living. And you know, again, to look at life with a positive perspective, that's a choice. And you know, from what I've read and what I've looked at, that's really what you are just trying to get people to see. That more than anything else, because you know we can't say that trouble ain't out there, as you said, the bad news it's out there, but how do we look at it? You know what I mean. Sure, so talk about. You said you have six, what was that? Again, six tenants.
Speaker 2:I call them six tenants. I know that sounds weird, ok, but a little background to that is that my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer back in 2000 or something and it kind of put a new perspective on things for us. I mean, if you've ever dealt with cancer in a family member, then you know that there's a lot of life that you start examining and when you get ready to when that road comes closer and closer to the end, you start paying attention to even more things and looking at yourself. Well, we lost her to that battle. She fought valiantly and she was a real godly woman and she just she passed the torch well, she died well. She spent the last few years of her life, and especially as soon as she went in hospice, the last couple months of her life, being extremely intentional.
Speaker 2:About what have I not told you? How can I encourage you? Do you want my cornbread recipe? I mean, it was just like all those things. And I have an adopted son who was only eight at the time and she was on the floor with him Sunday evening before she died playing, before she died on Thursday, and you know.
Speaker 2:So watching that process really hit me deep in my soul and I thought I don't want to, I don't. She lived well, don't get me wrong. She also lived well and I hope. I hope that we each have the opportunity as we leave to go be with Jesus, to be able to die well. Some of us don't have that choice. Some of it is quick, you know, but she had the time and she did it well. But I thought, could I do what? Would I have the time to actually make up for all those things? Am I living in a way that I will have very few things to apologize for or remedy or reconcile for? And so it really caused me to go inside and look and my dad had bought for her a beautiful calligraphy rendition, a piece of calligraphy. It's like a big frame of Proverbs 31 done by this Jewish rabbi in Jerusalem, and it's absolutely. It's gold filigree, it's gorgeous. And it made me really take another look at Proverbs 31 and other passages.
Speaker 2:I've been in scripture since I was very small and memorizing scripture and so for me a lot of it is just there, but sometimes we forget how to use it. It pops up and it's always there. But what I did was I did this kind of brain dump. I said what do I want to stand for? Right, I was working in university, medical, uh like schools of medicine. I was. Really I could have been on track to be quite successful, but I knew I wanted to stand for something else and so I said, well, how do I want to live my life out?
Speaker 2:And so I just brain dumped everything and then started categorizing it and filtering it out and realized I had about six categories and they fell kind of loosely into some um, into some of the things that Proverbs 31 talks about, with this excellent woman and, um, she is a business woman, she is a, um, is an amazing wife, she's a mother. Her husband's name is well known because of her. So you know, I mean it's like like sweetie, do you understand how this works? But here's the deal they came out, and so here's what I I love to share them. There's six of them. It sounds like a lot of information.
Speaker 2:I do have a download that people can get and kind of like, look at them all, but they're bookended with optimistic and intentional. So that's two of the six That'll tell you right there. The first one's optimistic and it encompasses things like hope. Like I do have a hope for the future. I'm confident that, that I have enough information to take my next best step.
Speaker 2:You know, like he says, you're a light into my path and that means I can hold out the light of hope, or I can hold out his word and I can see I have one just enough for that one step. But it also means I prepare and I'm proactive, so that's optimistic. Being present is the second one, and that means more than just being in the moment. Right, bob Goff says it means be where your feet are, and I'm like, well, that's nice, but I think it means more than that too. For me, it means generous with my time and my resources. It means like when my son says, mom, he's 15, now you want to watch this latest meme, I'm like, yes, and really, really don't, but you know being willing to share my time and my energy and even just doing something like this, share my time and my energy with others, but I call it.
Speaker 2:The other piece of it is grown up wonder. Like I said, we talk about children looking at the stars and saying, oh aren't they pretty, or the Christmas lights or something. But I look up there and I know what's out there, or at least I have an idea based on what our astronauts have seen. It's like I know it's not just lights, I know those are planets and stars. So my wonder is bigger than that of a child and that helps me be more present in the moment and it helps me be more kind and open with others. And that's so, that's being present.
Speaker 2:The third is energetic. This is all about industrious. You look at that Proverbs 31 woman. She buys a field, she plants a vineyard, she makes the wine, she sells it, she imports and exports. She makes sure everybody is clothed in purple cloth, which back then is the best, yeah, yeah, I mean even her servants. And so there's this attitude of industry always being willing to do something.
Speaker 2:But it also has to do with joy. You know, the joy of the Lord is my strength. Paul says I've learned to be content in all circumstances. Rejoice always. Paul says I've learned to be content in all circumstances, rejoice always. All these things are kind of encompassed in this idea that when you have joy in the moment, whether or not you are happy, joy is a different thing. That's where energy comes from, as well as being life focused. So I look for ways that I can affirm life rather than affirming anything else. Life rather than affirming anything else. People are always more important than ideas or things. But I'm happy and healthy in my body. We live in Charlottesville, virginia, and there are things that we've been through up here as a community that you learn real quickly how to separate what's people and what's not right. You know, I mean you just do, and that has been very pivotal in us learning how to truly love God and love others in a way that has been different from what we kind of were raised with. You know, I mean we're not. There's only a certain amount of that that we're responsible for, but then we are responsible. So being life focused.
Speaker 2:The fourth is courageous, having courage to be the leader. I'm a transformational leadership coach For two years. My podcast was titled Unconventional Leaders and I interviewed over 75 women who didn't really consider, always consider themselves leaders. But I wanted women to see that he's put you in the position you're in, where you are, no matter what it is to do some sort of leadership, even if it's leading yourself, and we have to be willing to look at that. So that encompasses leadership, having a sense of adventure. And then there's that resiliency that comes from getting out there, falling down and getting back up, and falling down and getting back up, it's exercising those muscles. So I love that courageous piece. People usually resonate with it.
Speaker 2:The fifth one, I have to tell you, catherine, was really hard for me to embrace and accept as mine. But it's this idea of wisdom, right? I mean this Proverbs 31 woman, she's wise, she gives counsel, she's good at what she does. And I noticed people were coming into my office and sitting down and talking. On more than one occasion I've had people say you're a safe place for me and understanding that the experiences I've been through are setting me up to share the wisdom of even just experience, or the wisdom that God has taught me Because, like I said, I'm a Sunday school teacher being willing to say all right, I'm okay to be wise. I thought that was just for 80-year-olds with curly purple hair, but I'll do it. But you've been around a certain number of times and that gives us experience. So I'm wise.
Speaker 2:I want to understand what others are going through. I want to understand that what we receive on the surface is not always it. There's something underneath. Many times it's a component being careful with our words, being really careful with how we respect others, don't demand, only respect. And then the last one is intentional, which kind of pulls it all together. It's like I don't do anything without a purpose and I have a plan and my intention is to grow, and so all those things together make intentional optimism. And so I just say that's the attitudes and mindsets, that I live out my core values, my goals, my dreams with excellence with excellence, and that's awesome.
Speaker 1:The simple fact that I myself I'm one of those ones that's always trying to figure something out, and the fact that God gave you the enlightenment to come up with these six. What are they called? Again, tenders.
Speaker 2:I call them tenets T-E-N-E-T-E-L Because we talk about. It's not a religious practice. But a lot of times when I looked up what I wanted to call them, are they principles? No, principles we can take or leave. Tenets are things that we practice. So if you look tenet up in the dictionary, it's basically it's things that we practice. So these are things that we want to practice on a daily basis. So, like I said, it's the attitudes and mindsets.
Speaker 1:I love it, I love it, and you have a podcast as well. Right, I do. What's the name of your?
Speaker 2:podcast again. I changed the name of it in September of 23 to Stand Tall and Own it, and part of that was because I realized I was listening to other women's stories and sharing them, which was a real, it was a gift and it was. It was beautiful, but God was teaching me so much and I had learned so much and I had been through some other things and it was time to say you know what? It's time to, just, like I said, be that wise, stand tall and just own it right. This is this is what I have to offer, this is the way I do it and, um, so it is targeted towards women, but I have men who listen.
Speaker 1:I was. I was actually just getting ready to ask you is it more targeted toward women, or or yeah, Okay, that's awesome. So, at the end of the day, you're really teaching um practical leadership and what it really means to be a leader. Yes, Is that correct?
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yes, and outside of practicing, is there anything else that are really become standards for leadership?
Speaker 2:Sure, like I said, I'm a Maxwell Leadership Speaker, trainer, coach, so a lot of his stuff I espouse to. I love his stuff. It's talk about practical and it's easy to understand. But the first piece is that the first person we lead is ourselves, and so I walk all of my clients through and I actually have a digital course and a hybrid coaching program, this idea that we need to understand our core values, which God has basically placed in us from the beginning.
Speaker 2:These are not family and church and these are not country, family, freedom and whatever those are. I mean freedom might be, but they're the things that are inside us. This is where our internal boundaries come. This is everything that we've ever experienced, reacted to, been happy about, been angry about, has probably pushed on or stepped on or celebrated a core value. And there are things that are kind of our own non-negotiables. Right, you have people that say don't lie to me, right? Or you know so honesty might be one of theirs.
Speaker 2:For me, there are things like autonomy of thought Don't tell me how to think. So I'm a very critical thinker. I'm a natural deconstructionist. When you give me something, I'm going to break it down and I'm going to see, hmm, and then I might put it back together. I might say, well, I'm going to keep that part, or, you know, and that actually helps me in my Bible study. But the other pieces, the other two for me that are real important so that people can understand what a core value might be is. The second one is authenticity. So I'm always going to tell my story, I'm always going to show you the warts, I'm always going to make sure that I am who I am and I don't mean to, you know, take God's words there, but you know it's just. This is how he made me and I want to glorify him in all that I do, but at the same time, I don't need to be like somebody else. I get to be like me.
Speaker 2:And then the third one I really it is so important to me and I didn't realize it is belonging, making sure that we belong. Right, I, catherine, want you to feel like when you're talking to me, you belong in this conversation. I want you to feel like you belong in the family of God or in my church, or when you come to my home or just even if we're out, you know seeing each other in the supermarket. I want to make sure that, whatever space I create, because I need that, I need to belong and I want to make sure I create that for other people and that opens you up to being. You know, it's like we have this open arm stance. I tell people. It's like when you do this with your arms, you are leaving yourself exposed, you're leaving all your vital organs exposed. But when you open your arms like this, who do we normally think of? We normally think of Jesus with his arms open, and so it's a very, it's a defenseless stance, which means people feel very safe and welcome.
Speaker 2:And so when I work with people on their core values, I help them understand what their non-negotiables are. That's a, I mean, that belonging piece. That's a non-negotiable for me. When somebody, if I'm in a situation where people are talking and excluding me from the conversation they may not mean to, but like I notice it. Right, right, right, and then I have to talk to myself every once in a while. They're not doing it on purpose, oh, okay, that's right, and it's not always about you, andrea.
Speaker 2:So understanding our core values gives us the ability to have the authority that God gave each and every one of us to respect others, to live out all of those tenets of intentional optimism and set the boundaries that we need. You know, how many people do you hear talk about? I need to set some boundaries out here. Y'all need to. You know, stay up. The boundaries that we need to set are in here, you know. I mean there are some legitimate boundaries outside of ourselves, but most of them are in here. Nobody comes walking in my front door without knocking. They know the door is shut. That's a good boundary, right. So this is some core stuff. I hate to use that word, core but this is some foundational pieces that I work on with people, and because everybody's a little different, I have like a. Some people can just read instructions and figure their core values out. And gosh, catherine, some people, some people just live in, wanting to fit in.
Speaker 2:I grew up allowing my core values to be pushed to the side or tamped down or compromised or dishonored, and so it took me some work to do that. I mean, I've been working on this. I don't know if you can see this, but are you familiar with Franklin Covey? No, like the Franklin Planner. Okay, so that's also leadership, but this is back in the 90s. I'm dating myself I'm 57, by the way, and this was back in like 93. I went through Steve Covey's book Seven Habits of Highly Effective People and one of the things is figuring out your governing values, and that was the start for me. So I've been working on this a long time and I believe it to my core in my soul and I know I've watched how it really helps people. So those are some foundational pieces that I think we just need to recognize in ourselves. It's good to have them and it's good to know them.
Speaker 1:I just want you to know I love your spirit.
Speaker 1:I love it because everything that you're saying I just 100% can agree and attest that. You know, I mean without boundaries. If you don't set any boundaries, how will anybody know, even yourself? And so what you're saying, it just completely makes sense. And you know, sometimes, I think, we apologize for our boundaries. We will become apologetic for our core values and our standards. We will apologize to make other people comfortable. And what I'm hearing from you you can correct me if I'm wrong if you don't have these things, you will lose yourself and even before you lose yourself, you won't be able to find yourself without it. Is that what I'm hearing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's possible to live in a very self-aware way without fully understanding your core values. But we might trip up, and I love that you brought up that we apologize for these things. I would say we apologize for them because we have not owned them and we don't have the. We have not yet understood and kind of taken hold of the authority that we have to own them. And so we apologize for something that we're kind of stepping on authority, right. That's why we usually apologize. So when we understand who we are and the authority that we have, there's no need to apologize. We're not defensive about them and, quite frankly, we're not offensive about them.
Speaker 2:I don't go out there telling people well, y'all didn't make me feel included, you know. I mean, I'm not in third grade anymore, I don't need to do that. But at the same time, like I said, I have the conversation in myself, inside, and I give people the benefit of the doubt because I want to make sure that you know who knows what's going on with them, and sometimes my vision gets cloudy, all you know. And so for me being able to say I have a conversation, to tell myself it might not be you, it might be something else, which then opens my eyes to say, yeah, I don't even need to be defensive about this, this is not a boundary I need to have. If somebody doesn't like my energy, who wouldn't like my energy? If somebody doesn't like my energy, I've had people tell me I am too positive, which you know. They just haven't heard me complain or yell at my son, and you know because they just haven't been privy to that yet. But that's okay, you know. I mean, my place is not with everyone and I have learned that I can be truly authentic and I can truly belong all by myself with God, through Jesus, and then in my husband and my family.
Speaker 2:So when people talk about needing to set boundaries or apologizing for boundaries, I think a lot of it is just being able to understand when we have the authority for those boundaries. We can then communicate them in a way that other people can accept. And it may be that at the very beginning because it's when I counsel people, when you start, when you get them don't go out there telling people that they need to respect your boundaries, just start setting them in a way that is gracious and kind to them. And you right, because if you draw a real hard line. All of a sudden, people are going to be very confused and it's going to be a situation where you need to apologize. But I think I'm convinced there's a way to do it without having to do that, and I've done it in my own life and I'm watching my clients do the same thing.
Speaker 1:Oh, my, my, I mean it's good, it's really good because you know for me and I just say this for me personally, and I hope that it speaks to the diamonds the same way you know everything that you're saying. It really it's my language that I don't oftentimes know how to speak. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, and I think that a lot of times.
Speaker 1:People have that same language but they don't know how to speak it the right way, where it can be perceived, the way that you're trying to say it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:So you know, this is definitely a God appointed time for me. Anybody else you know for me?
Speaker 2:Hey, and I just want to encourage you because you've done a really good job asking specific questions and helping me to say what I want to say. So, all y'all listening, if you haven't, pause a minute and go give her a five-star review and she was apologizing that her husband wasn't here today. I don't know any reason to do that now. I haven't interviewed with him yet. But give her a five-star review because she's asking very she's on your side, right? She's asking you questions that are really going to help you and I you know.
Speaker 2:I wanted to share too that my favorite Bible verse is Ephesians 2.10, where Paul talks about we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works that he ordained for us long ago.
Speaker 2:So, speaking to diamonds in the rough, that's what we are, you know. So he has created you to be you and I just want to encourage you to to step out and say I want to just show up as me, because that's plenty good enough. And you know there are ways that some of you may have grown up in situations that have talked you down more than my situation did, and you know, in the demographic, or in your community or in your family, and you know, I, I understand that, but you still, no, I don't understand all of it. I can't say I understand all of it. I understand my part and I'm willing to meet you where you are. Reach out to me and let me. I mean, I'm actually I'm the one who answers all my emails, you know, and, and my DMs and that kind of thing. So I think that, um, that, catherine, this is, I'm thrilled. I love it when, when we show up and it's the right thing for the right time the right people, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1:And so, as we get ready to wrap up, um, what the thing that I got out of this overall is that these core values and these tenets, they are meant for us on purpose, for purpose. So, whatever struggle you're facing, whatever you know giant is in front of you, with these things, you are able to overcome it. You're able to face it if you're intentional, if you got the right perspective and if you're doing it unto God and you know.
Speaker 1:Miss Andrea, I just encourage you to continue to go forth and I say thank you. So if you would final thought whatever it is that you want the people to take away the diamonds to take away from this interview, please share that now.
Speaker 2:You're worth it. Every one of you has been created in God's image, with his fingerprints all over you, and you are unique and you are different, and yet we are all the same in the sense that we all are created with specific core values, with specific things and ways that we communicate patterns. So do not underestimate the value that comes from knowing who God created you to be. I think that's the most important thing from knowing who God created you to be.
Speaker 1:I think that's the most important thing.
Speaker 2:Hallelujah, amen Would you close us out with prayer, Absolutely. Thank you so much. Sure Father, God, what a privilege it is to speak these beautiful words to your beautiful creations, that we might be able to encourage each other to grow in you and to learn who you have created them to be, so that they can each show up as the workmanship that you designed them to be. I ask, Lord, that you would take these words and plant them in their hearts and give them a curiosity and a courage to grow not just in who they are but in you, that they might be able to reflect your beauty to the world around them and others would say what is it about you that's different? And they might be able to share the world around them that others would say what is it about you that's different?
Speaker 1:And they might be able to share. In Jesus name, we pray Amen, amen, amen. Thank you again, andrea, for being here. We certainly do appreciate your presence. It was definitely a pleasure. Yes, it was.
Speaker 2:Mine too. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, diam right, diamonds. Y'all know what time it is. Until the next time, remember that you are a diamond in the rough. Amen from us to you so much love and prayer. Hopefully we'll see you the next time. Blessings and love, amen, amen.
