God's Diamonds In The Ruff Podcast
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God's Diamonds In The Ruff Podcast
#176 S5 EP 50: Embracing Responsibility, Overcoming Victimhood with Robert Hunt's Wisdom
Esteemed author and man of faith, Robert Hunt, joins us to confront the pervasive victim mentality overshadowing personal accountability in our society. Through his thought-provoking book, "Nobody Cares," Robert guides us on a journey to embrace personal responsibility, sharing his own compelling life story of overcoming adversity. Reflecting on the contrast between being victimized and adopting a victim mindset, Robert reveals how accountability can become a powerful path to liberation and empowerment, encouraging us to recognize where we may unintentionally fall into the victim role.
Vulnerability takes center stage as we explore its crucial role in fostering personal growth and healing. By opening up about our struggles in areas like marriage, finances, or parenting, we can invite genuine support and encouragement from those we trust. However, in a social media-driven world that often celebrates irresponsibility, finding the right people to lean on becomes essential. Our conversation serves as a call to be intentional in forming relationships that promote accountability and growth, steering clear of superficial achievements heralded by societal norms.
Inspired by the insights from Richard Swenson's book "Margin," we discuss how recognizing life's limits allows room for divine guidance and meaningful connections. Robert shares his perspective on living a balanced and purposeful life, encouraging us to slow down and seek clarity in our financial, emotional, and physical well-being. As we draw our discussion to a close, we focus on contentment as a form of entrusting our efforts to a higher power, concluding with a heartfelt prayer for a life of richness and purpose as intended by God.
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Hello, hello and welcome to God's Diamonds in the Rough. So glad to be before you one more time. Amen. I hope all is well. I hope you're having a great day, amen. I hope that you know that everything is going the way you expected it to go, amen. And if not, we know that God's way is always better than ours. Hallelujah, come on, somebody. Y'all got me and we have a guest with us today. Amen, michael is out busy doing things. Amen, y'all know that happens here sometimes, amen, he's not always able to be here, but in spirit he's here. Hallelujah, amen.
Speaker 1:So back to the subject at hand. We are going to be talking today about accountability, amen. So back to the subject at hand. We are going to be talking today about accountability, amen, something that in our society today a lot of folk lack. They don't want it, don't want to have nothing to do with accountability because it's always somebody else's fault, but the reality is we God holds us accountable at the end of the day, Amen. And we need to know how to handle accountability.
Speaker 1:So his name is Robert Hunt, amen. He is an author, but more than anything, he is a man of God, ready, amen, to give us what God has given him. So, before we go any further, let us go ahead and pray. Father, we thank you so much for your grace and your mercy. Thank you, god, for allowing us this day and this time to be able to have a conversation with you.
Speaker 1:I pray, god, that you would speak to us in such a way that we cannot miss you. I pray for every diamond, every heart that is here, god, that they are here on purpose, for purpose, that they will get what it is you desire to give them. Father, we glorify your name and we lift your name on high. We pray all blessings on your people, god, and we pray that you will bless your man servant and your woman servant as we go forth to do your will. We pray this prayer and we ask it all in the precious name of Jesus Christ. We do pray Amen, amen and amen, hallelujah, amen, okay y'all. So Robert is here and I want to ask him to say, I want to ask you, robert, to say hello to our audience and introduce yourself the way you desire.
Speaker 2:Good morning, amen. I'm married to Kathy for 25 years. She's my beautiful wife. I have two adult children, james and Lauren. I live in the DFW area and I lead groups for business owners and CEOs every month. That's how I make a living. I wrote this book called Nobody Cares because I wanted to challenge people to stop playing the role of a victim in their lives, and I think a lot of times we're not even aware that we're playing the role of victim. So we outline the concepts of accountability in the book. We tell our own story and I'd love to share that with you today.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, tell us about your book. How do we get to this place of writing? Nobody cares.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we understood the principles of accountability through this accountability ladder that's been published many years ago, and I taught this to my clients who are business owners. And, at the end of the day, if you own your own business, you understand what it's like to be accountable, because, whether or not you like this or that, it doesn't matter, it's your business, it's your responsibility, and so we who own our own business, we get it. But the rest of the world, I think, often is comfortable playing the role of a victim. They don't think about it, and so we outline in the book these principles. We decided to write the book because in 2020, we watched the world just kind of divide in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2:If you voted for Trump, I hate you. If you didn't vote for Trump, I hate you. If you voted for Trump, I hate you. If you didn't vote for Trump, I hate you. If you wore a mask, I hate you. If you didn't wear a mask, I hate you. It was just a lot of anger and, at the end of the day, it was evident that we've lost the idea of accountability, and so we wanted to teach the principles of accountability. Kathy and I, we lived this out in our own lives, we saw how the freedom and power that comes from accountability, and and so our hope is that this book will help change people's lives by helping them see where they live life as a victim and they're not aware of it and the tools and the benefit of being truly accountable.
Speaker 1:So, in your own words, how would you describe victim?
Speaker 2:Great question. Victim is someone who is staying frozen in the injustice of the situation. I was a little kid. I grew up with a very angry father who beat all of us kids. We were a very poor family, five kids. My mom had four kids when she found out that my her husband had did not get a vasectomy and that the fifth kid was now coming, and she decided to not abort me, which I'm very thankful for. But we grew up very poor. He couldn't keep a job, so that made him feel like a loser. He took out his anger on us and beat my mom and beat me, and so I've gone through all these things in my life that I could look back and say, hey, I've been victimized, but I'm not a victim.
Speaker 2:I grow up, I get older, I get married. I'm married 10 years, have a two-year-old daughter and my wife decides to leave and take my daughter and go and start her own journey, and so I felt wronged in that moment and in the process I went through a bankruptcy, lost everything, and I would say I was victimized, but I'm not a victim. And so there's lots of things you can see in your life that happened to you, that are a bummer or really downright horrible, and if you choose to, you can stay mired in that victim's mentality or you can say, yeah, that was wrong and evil. However, that does not define me. I am not a victim, especially those of us who are in Christ. We are victorious in Christ. That's right.
Speaker 2:Which is one of my frustrations with the church today is that we spend an awful lot of time complaining about how God doesn't do this or that, or how come God doesn't give me a better marriage. How come God doesn't take care of this problem? How come I don't get a better job? How come God doesn't owe us anything? He gave us his own life. He died on the cross to forgive us the sins that we could never pay. We've been given eternal life in the spirit of God. We have all the power in the world and all we do is complain that we don't have this or that We've lost our perspective.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I agree with that 100%, because it's a real sad thing. I mean and you just, I mean one, two punch. You just said it because the reality is we're victorious, but you know, you have a mindset that says victim and you'll never get where, where the Lord desires you to get, with that type of mindset, right. So can you? We're not even aware of it.
Speaker 2:The reality is, you're not even aware of it. So you lose your job. And then you tell your friends hey, I lost my job. And what do you do? You blame your boss, you blame your coworkers, you blame the economy. You make excuses Well, I couldn't keep up with that job, it was really hard. Or I didn't know that they expected this. And you make excuses that make you feel better about it. Your friends go yeah, that's not right. And yeah, you're right, you were wrong.
Speaker 2:And then we're out of work for a while. So we get offers for jobs and we say, well, I can't afford to take that job that pays me less than I made at the last company. And we say we can't. But we really mean I won't. And we're inhibiting God to do things through us because we don't like it. It's not easy, it's not comfortable, it's not what I want, it's not what I deserve.
Speaker 2:And then, at the end of that book, kathy and I at one point owed $90,000 in debt, not including the house or the cars. And we did that to ourselves. But every year we kept going okay, lord, you got to get us out of debt, you got to bring me business. Help me grow my business, let me have the blessings. We used to say when is God going to bless our business? And the reality is he did bless me. He gave me an amazing wife who loves me. My kids don't are living in wheelchairs. I live in texas it's the greatest country in america. I have all these great things going on and all I did was want to complain and whine and and shake my fist at god going, hey, come on, let's get it together. And he wasn't impressed.
Speaker 2:And so we had to really come to grips to say at some point look, nobody cares. If cares. If you're fat, broke, unhappy with your marriage, can't keep a job. Nobody cares unless you care enough to do something about it. And that's the turning point. That's why we call that in the book when you decide I'm not happy with this situation and I'm going to do something about it. That's when you begin the journey towards accountability. And the process we went through was very hard to get out of $90,000 of debt. But we outline it in the book because we want to teach people that, although something is hard, it doesn't mean it's impossible.
Speaker 1:Amen, amen. So talk about your framework in regard to these steps. You said you have some steps to take. Correct, correct yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So the basic outline of the book is a structure for accountability. At the beginning, we're pretty much unaware of what is truly accountable in our lives. When we finally become aware that there's some level of accountability, the first thing we do is we blame. If blame doesn't work, we make excuses. And if that doesn't work, we just say, well, I can't. And if I can't and the blame and excuse don't work, then we just wait. We wait it out, thinking, okay, maybe it'll get better.
Speaker 2:Making minimum payments on your credit card is waiting and hoping. Not going to a counselor, even though you know your marriage is on the rocks, is waiting and hoping. Not giving up alcohol, even though it's ruining your life, is waiting and hoping. And so we kick it down the road. And then at some point you realize wait, wait, wait. Nobody cares unless I care enough to do something. And you decided that moment okay, I'm going to own this, I'm going to do something. And it's at that point you cross into the part of the journey where you're going somewhere, you're not huddled in as a victim, you're moving towards a victorious life. And so then at that point you need to acknowledge reality we talked about, like standing in front of a mirror, naked in a 360-degree mirror. There's no hiding it. When you're naked, you see what is truth, and so it does that kind of vulnerability where you go okay, this is what's real.
Speaker 2:And in our case, we had to hire a financial advisor to come in and look at the way we spent money and go, wow, is that how you want to spend money in your life? Well, no, why do you do it? I don't know, and we had to have someone who would call us out and ask us questions. That was vulnerability, that was transparency, and without vulnerability, you'll never have accountability in your life. So when we assess the situation and we realize we have $90,000 in equity in our home we have more than that and we could go ahead and sell our house and start over you have to embrace the suck. That's the next chapter, that's the next step. Once you assess what's reality, you might realize that it sucks, and that's okay, because life sucks. There's a lot of things that are hard, but just because it's hard doesn't mean we don't do it. So we embrace the suck. We created a plan and then you make it happen.
Speaker 2:And in that journey of doing all that, it was hard, but it was hard being a victim too, except I had no hope. I felt miserable. I woke up every morning thinking, if I work my butt off all day, I'm still never going to get out of debt. And I felt hopeless. But it was because I wasn't willing to do the hard things. I wasn't willing to take the steps that were required to make the change I wanted. And it's not like I wasn't aware of it, I just didn't want it. It's not like I couldn't, I just didn't want it Anyway. So we walked that journey, sold the house, started over and we moved into this house. Four years later we're still here renting this little lovely home. And we paid off all our debt and we had zero. And that's when COVID hit and shut down the world. And it was okay because I didn't know any money. I could go to Walmart and make whatever I, whatever I make per hour, and I wouldn't care because I don't know any money. It was beautiful right, okay.
Speaker 1:So, uh, I had a thought in my question in my head. I just lost it. The devil is a liar. But um, you said, and in the midst of you were talking, you said vulnerability is important. Um, vulnerability, yeah, we don't have accountability, that's right. Yeah, I mean, it's important. Vulnerability, yeah, we want accountability, we want to have accountability.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that's powerful, because a whole lot of times we ourselves don't want to see what's wrong, and I believe that when Jesus said for us to give our burdens to him, that meant, in a sense, letting go of all of it and being willing to walk through the hard stuff, walking through the pain, walking through the aftermath of whatever was wrong and learning, because you had to learn, you had to start over again, learning how to do it his way.
Speaker 2:Would, you agree.
Speaker 2:And he also says to confess your sins to one another so that you can be healed. And the reality is that if I tell you, hey, I'm not doing a great job in my marriage, then at least I have the opportunity to do something about it. But if I hide it and I never talk about it, it still remains a cancer inside of me that's not getting any better. But if I can have people around me who love me and care about me and I'm willing to be honest with them, I now have people who will support me and pray for me, encourage me. But in our world we love to commiserate with one another. If you want to complain about your spouse or your kids or your job, the whole world's going to back you up. Yeah, your kids are rotten, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the whole world's going to back you up. Yeah, your kids are rotten Stuff like that. They want to join in the commiserating. But instead, if you say, look, I feel like I'm not a good parent, I feel like a lot of times I lose my cool with my kids and I don't want to be that way, will you pray with me? Will you encourage me? Will you ask me how I'm doing, I'm going to do this and this and you lay it out to them, or what you're going to do.
Speaker 2:And here's a really important principle no one can hold anyone accountable. But we can create an environment where I want to be accountable If I am vulnerable, if I'm honest enough with someone to say I got a problem and I don't do my money. Well, and that's embarrassing. But would you help me write a budget? Would you come over to my house and look at what I spend and help me put on a piece of paper what I should spend and how much I should save? And if they look at your checkbook and they look at what you spend, wow, that's humbling, that's embarrassing. But if you really want to get help, you'll invite people into your journey and let them support you. But at the end of the day, you could lie to them and deceive and change the numbers and do whatever you want. They're not going to make you be accountable, but they are going to encourage you if you invite them in.
Speaker 1:Right, and it sounds like that's exactly what the enemy wants us to do, and everything that you're saying is a place of bondage or prison, because when you don't acknowledge what's wrong, you keep that door locked. That is a prison where there's money in your marriage dealing with addictions and things of that sort. Those are, I call them, self self-inflicted prisons that we tend to put ourselves in but you know, through his word and through this book, it's definitely.
Speaker 2:I'm picking up that it's a way out, you know, a way out of where you are the reality is your friends are going to not want to encourage you in the journey to be accountable, because then that makes them look bad in their own junk, right? You know, if you say, hey, I'm going to stop spending so much money, well then I'm looking at my life going. Well, maybe I should spend so much money and I like the way I live my life. Sort of I don't like that. I'm broke but I like to party.
Speaker 2:And so if you declare you're going to do something that's responsible, then I look at like, well, are you? Are you judging me? You know, people get all bound up in their own junk so much they can't even support you. So sometimes we have to find other friends, because the same friends who encourage you to be foolish and irresponsible are probably not the ones you're going to encourage you to own it and do what's right. And that's not to say you don't, you just leave all your friends behind. But sometimes you need different friends who will help you be better than what you are at. And you bring them in, you invite them in, you're really transparent. You let you tell them what your plans are and you let them encourage you. You're necessarily abandoning all your other friends, but they're probably not the ones to help you be your best yeah, yeah, I think that, um, social media does that as well.
Speaker 1:It, it, it aids in that idea that you know I'm right, even though I'm wrong. You know what I mean. I know I'm wrong, but they say they champion the wrong, so I feel like I'm justified and sane and doing whatever it is that I'm doing. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is, and it's socially acceptable to be irresponsible. If you talk about I just bought a new house and everyone knows how much money you make, you work at this job, how the heck are you getting a house? I got a new car. Look at this new phone. I got People know you didn't want you to pay cash for that, but we brag about it, yeah, and it's like yeah, cool, good job. So this has become like this mindset of showing me how much money you can get into debt for right. It's like crazy. But we're not talking about the other side. Look, when I'm heavy in debt, I don't make good decisions. I feel stressed, and then the washing machine breaks down and then I get really mad. Because the washing machine broke down, but because I have so much debt.
Speaker 2:I've got a real problem here. It affects how I treat my kids and my spouse and it affects how I look at the whole world. Can I tithe and give graciously when I owe a bunch of money? No, it's hard to be available for God to move in our lives when we put them in a box and say, hey, there's no money, therefore you can't use me in this area. But if I'm responsible for the money he's given me and all the money I have came from God, so if I take this money and I waste it on me or doing whatever I want, and then he shows up and says, hey, your neighbor needs some money for electricity this month and you can't help them out because you parted your other money, that's not using God's money responsibly.
Speaker 2:That 10% we give is an opportunity to recognize who God is. That's the bare minimum. The other 90% still belongs to God. He just let us use it. But he wants us to be responsible with that money and if we just use it and then we're not available for what he wants to do in our lives, that's very selfish. God doesn't pour more into a person who's selfish with their resources. Someone who gives graciously, god's like good. You're doing good with that, let me give you more. But if everything you get goes to you and you party and it's all gone, why would God give you more? You're irresponsible. You don't deserve more. You've modeled that. You don't deserve it.
Speaker 1:Much is given, much is required, yeah, and so nobody cares. If you don't care about yourself, I get it. I love it. I love that word Amen. It's absolutely a word for our time, and it's a timely word because we live in a world where everybody's about themselves, even the men and the women that are supposed to be representing Christ about ourselves oftentimes. So what other encouragement do you have you would like to share with the audience?
Speaker 2:You know, one of the things that I teach my clients is about this idea about creating margin in your life. It's a book written by Richard Swenson. Richard Swenson was a doctor who saw people living life on overload and realized he couldn't help them be any healthier unless they were willing to change the way they lived their lives. And he wrote this whole book about overload and what happens to us in overload. And so I've been practicing the principles of margin for about six years, and what it says, what it does for me, is that it allows God to have room in your life to interrupt you. And so every day this is in the book we measure four buckets of stuff, because everything in life has limits. There's 24 hours a day, seven days a week. There's a limit, there's a limit in time. There's a limit to everything, and so if you recognize that there's a bucket of time, money, health and emotion, and you look at how you create room for God to interrupt in those areas and you live a life where God has the freedom to interrupt your day, then you're ready for God to do something in your life. But if you spend everything you have in your own world, god has no room to use you. So if you're super maxed out in your calendar and there's no time for anything, you're working super long days, and then your kid needs some time, or your spouse needs some time, or your neighbor needs time.
Speaker 2:This morning I had breakfast with a guy who's unemployed, been out of a job for almost a year, and he asked me on LinkedIn will you meet with me? I'm like sure, and I could buy him breakfast and just pray with him and encourage him because I manage my time and I manage my money, and so I was able to go and care for this guy who I don't know I know now, but he didn't know before I was able to interrupt my life, said go meet with this guy and love this guy and help him. So we want to make sure we live a life that creates room for God to interrupt. Otherwise, when something comes up, we go Lord, I don't have time or I don't have money, or my health is bad, I can't be used here because I've got all these things. We limit God's movement in our life by not creating room for him to interrupt.
Speaker 2:That's what margin's all about, and as I pursue the life I really want, I take ownership of my situation about and as I pursue the life I really want, I take ownership of my situation. I own it that's accountability and I make the changes I need to make so that I can live the life I really want. So God can interrupt me whenever he feels like it with my time, my money, my health, my emotions. I give him the room to actually rule in my life, versus just visiting him on Sunday and say I'll be back here next Sunday, I'll check in on you again. Let's take him with us every day to work so that God can say go talk to that coworker.
Speaker 2:Right now their life is falling apart and they need somebody who will care for them. Take some of the money I gave you and go give it to this organization so they can bless these other people. Take some time in your in your life to slow down and rest so that you're ready to be a kind, caring human. That's why the Sabbath was created. All these things. That's about margin. I would love for people to understand that there's more out there if we create margin in our lives, and margin is that in the book as well.
Speaker 2:No, I talk a little bit about it, but this is the book here. It's Margin by Richard Swenson. Okay, it's got a parking meter on the front of it, but those are principles that I've applied in my life. You know, I didn't have margin before. When I was broke, I had no financial margin. Therefore I had no time margin because in order to make up for the fact I didn't have the money, I would work a million hours. And then my emotions were maxed out because even if I worked a million hours, I still wasn't going to pay off $90,000. So I had no emotional margin.
Speaker 2:It kept me from sleeping well, so my health wasn't good. So my solution to all this stress was drink more bourbon and eat more snacks late at night and sit up and watch TV, not go to bed at a decent hour. So I'm tired, I'm fat and my health is falling apart. I'm stressed. All that because I wasn't managing my time and I wasn't managing my money. It's all connected. But when I took ownership for it and I became accountable and I said I'm not living the life I want and I'm not available for God's life purpose in my life, I had to make a change and it was super hard, but it's way better than being a victim.
Speaker 1:That's a powerful word, a powerful, powerful word Um cause. A lot of times, we don't quite understand things that are happening in our lives, and I say this because we oftentimes pray and we ask God for you know, patience or whatever have you, or we ask God to help us, um, manage time or whatever have you, and then it always goes back to something that we never put a word to. But it's actually happening for me. That is what's happening. The Lord is making me slow down. So, because I've been talking to him, asking him for clarity and understanding what, because my life got to a point where it was just going so fast that I did not have time to understand what was happening. I'm like I'm out of balance, out of alignment, something's wrong. Lord, help me to get where you need me to be. And this whole process just been slowing down and it's just you put word. Once again, you're not like the first guest that has done that for me.
Speaker 1:Put words to what is happening in my life, because I don't understand it. But I thank you for that word and I know that it's somebody else here that needed that word. Margins, vulnerability, accountability, ownership. They are all power words and you know that's the desire, the heart of God for us. You have a final word, anything else you'd like to share? How about where we get your book?
Speaker 2:One more time. What'd you say I?
Speaker 1:said how about? Where do we get your book?
Speaker 2:Oh well, thank you. You can go to nobody cares bookcom. You can buy it there. It's always. It's also on Amazon and Barnes and Nobles and all that stuff. But if you buy it from me, I Amazon and Barnes and Nobles and all that stuff. But if you buy it from me, I'll autograph it and I'll put a bookmark in there and a sticker you can tag somewhere. But more than that, I want to get you involved in our community so we can stay in touch. I want to hear about your journey, I want to encourage you and what you're doing. For your podcast I created a specific domain which is nobody cares P O Dcom. Nobody cares Pod, potcom Nobodycarespodcom. And if they enter the code word diamonds into the contact form, I will mail out a book at my cost to the first two people who send me a contact form and that way I can give that book away to people who are listening to your show as just a way of encouraging them in their process.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's nice. Okay, so I got nobodycarespod. That's where we. Okay, so I got nobodycarespod.
Speaker 2:That's where we get the no, nobodycarespod, nobodycarespodcom.
Speaker 1:Okay, nobodycarespodcom. Nobodycarespodcom. Okay, and then, alright, diamond is the code word for you, said the first two, the people who sign up for as a contact for you. They'll receive a copy of the book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm not using it as a marketing thing. It's just that I don't want to have to give away 100 copies of my book, so I want to cap it out to two people I know that's right. I know that's right. I mailed one to Kenya last week from a guy who was on a different podcast and I didn't even know how to get a book to Kenya. It cost me $35 to send a $15 book to Kenya, but the guy was listening to the podcast and I'm going to honor my word.
Speaker 1:Amen, amen. That's awesome, all right, so if you would do me a favor, did you have a final word? One more final word, and then I want to ask you to pray.
Speaker 2:You know, something I've been dealing with lately is this idea of what is a good day at work and along the lines of margin and living the life you really want. If you were to say today that I'm going to work the best I can, staying focused and prioritizing against the things that are important, and then leave the results to God, then you can stop at the end of the day and be content. You know, contentment is not the absence of drive or excellence. Contentment is when you want to do your best to move the results to God. And so if you just said every day I'm going to do my best today with what I've got and I'm going to stop at five o'clock or six o'clock, whatever your cutoff is, and go home and live your life and enjoy friendships and invest in the world around you, I guarantee you you will have a better life.
Speaker 1:Hallelujah. Would you do us a favor and pray as well? Pray us out of our conversation.
Speaker 2:I'd love that. Thank you, lord Jesus. Thank you for this time just to get together and talk about how do we live a life that is going to be full and rich, one that you created for us. You died so that we could know you and walk in the freedom of knowing the God of the universe. So, lord, I pray for those people today who feel trapped.
Speaker 2:They are not, but they feel that way, and we've grown up being comfortable with these things that hold us back, their lies, and so I pray, in the name of Jesus, that they would find freedom, which is what you came to give us freedom and confidence in you. Or that they would look at their life and say am I living the life I want? And, if not, what am I willing to do to pursue the life that God has created for me? A life of freedom and joy and blessings to ourselves as well as the world around us. A life of freedom and joy and blessings to ourselves as well as the world around us. We pray you would open our hearts to hear you stirring in our hearts and be obedient to you. In the name of Jesus.
Speaker 1:Amen, Amen. Thank you so much, Robert, for being here. I so appreciate everything that God gave you and I appreciate just the work that you're doing for the kingdom. It is awesome.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. You've got a great podcast. I'd love to be a part of it.
Speaker 1:We appreciate that. Amen, all right, y'all. Y'all know what time it is. Please remember until the next time we get together that you are a diamond in the rough. Amen, god bless you and we will see you on the next time. Amen, amen and amen.
